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  The Label Of "Apostate" And It's Effects

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. experiences

  in my psychology studies we've been examining the use of "labels" and how they influence peoples behaviour.

  i sometimes wonder if the gb or their helpers know exactly what they're doing when it comes to psychological manipulation.. it's been observed that by labeling someone or something it changes your entire perception of that person or thing.

  it colours it entirely, quite unfairly in some cases.

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  I am sure someone in the investment/financial department keeps an eye on the stats of how many JWs it takes to bring in so much money. They know that people leave every year... but that's ok, as long as they keep a certain balance.

  Also, just like we have seen, they know that there is a certain part of the population that is braindead-numblessly following their lead, they clap at every announcement at a convention: "Don't we just loooooove this idea?" clap, clap, clap....

  Personally, I have this idea that the Borganization is trying to slough off all of those that give them problems, wanting people to leave of their own volition. Why? Maybe so they don't keep up on the news about JWs and sue them? Maybe because they have their nest egg in N.Y. and have real estate,stocks and bonds to take care of them? I haven't quite figured out the 'why' of it, exactly... But that is one of the possibilities I am waiting to see how it plays out.

  Maybe WT is trying to become a 'fader'? haha!
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  The Label Of "Apostate" And It's Effects

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in my psychology studies we've been examining the use of "labels" and how they influence peoples behaviour.

  i sometimes wonder if the gb or their helpers know exactly what they're doing when it comes to psychological manipulation.. it's been observed that by labeling someone or something it changes your entire perception of that person or thing.

  it colours it entirely, quite unfairly in some cases.

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  Absolutely, DOC and WakeMe

  Whether it's the GB, the 'Service Desk', the 'Legal Department', the 'Writing department' or the 'guys behind the curtain' someone knows how to dot their 'i's' and cross their 't's.

  Haven't you ever been bothered, when you were a JW, at all the senseless repetition of Bible dramas that emphasize how 'God's leaders, the ones he selected, like David, Moses, Saul' had to be forgiven for sins that we would have been killed for, and that we 'have to trust Jehovah to know what he's doing if he decides to let them live and forgive them'... and the WT goes on to explain that how we have to be loyal to those Jehovah uses.... No accident.

  As I look back, I see how WT publications steered us into using new words/ phrases, adapting new ideas, using questions. "Doesn't it make sense? or "It makes sense..." "Jehovah appreciates it when"... and on and on...

  WT started changing policies, prophecies and expectations years and years in advance.

  Someone.... somewhere.... knows exactly what they are doing.
  
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  Questions for JDubs to think about

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is it reasonable to have an invisible friend whom you have never seen and yet you talk to this invisible friend several times a day even though the friend has never talked back to you?.

  is it reasonable for you to give your life to this invisible friend because a group of 8 men says that if you don't you won't live forever?.

  do you thank your invisible friend every day for the food that he gives you, yet he doesn't give food to over 27,000 people a day who die the terrible death of starvation.

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  Good questions for thought Sour Grapes, I like your illustration about the peach pie & blood fractions!
  
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  Article: Jehovah's Witnesses and sexual abuse: The Philadelphia Inquirer lays it out

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.getreligion.org/getreligion/2018/5/6/jehovahs-witnesses-and-sexual-abuse-the-reckoning-is-here.

  jehovah's witnesses and sexual abuse: the philadelphia inquirer lays it out.

  may 7, 2018. julia duin.

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  Julia Duin, a religious reporter, comments on the previous Philadelphia story about the Haughs, the family whose child was molested from a viewpoint of past experiences with Jehovah's Witnesses and of modern times.

  "FaithLeaks" and "Reclaimed Voices" are praised. Perhaps this will lead to more awakening?
  
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  EXJW Fifth Interviews Jason Wynne - Founder of AvoidJW.org

  by Wakanda in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bahseeaoof8.

  simply fabulous.

  ps.

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  This interview was GREAT! You do not want to miss it. Jason has information that connects the dots. Very, very interesting... 'How the Borg works'.... I think I will watch it again! Thx Cliff!
  
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  Interview with Dagney

  by Dagney in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  tell us a little about yourself and your family.. i was born and raised in southern california, with a brief stint with parents as need-greaters in central america.

  my parents accepted a study in the d2d work, i believe my father was interested in the revolutionary aspect of the religion, and my mom said she wanted to learn the bible.

  they were baptized in 1937 i think, and attended the one and only los angeles kh at the time.

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  Hi Dagney! I like this! Dagney & I (and my husband) met at the Apostafest in Tahoe. She and Aude Sapere were two of the most 'listeningenst' peoples there (besides Mr & Mrs Flipper, haha) and going there was GREAT! We met many people that we are still friends with and keep in contact with.

  Also, people from our area, California, were there that we had not seen/spoken with for 40 years! All the dots started connecting... Very interesting. If you CAN, it is GREAT to hold a camping trip / ApostaFest in your area. Very worthwhile.

  Thx Dagney!
  
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  Hopefully this will educate the public and help end the WT's rule of secrecy at all costs

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm glad barbara wrote this book - "barbara anderson uncensored: eyewitness to deceit" - it will be an eye opener for the public who only see the polite people at carts or walking door to door.

  it will help them see who the wt really is through her experiences working at bethel in the writing department.

  i liked the contribution of bonnie zieman and jon atack who additionally help expose the type of control wt exerts, and what the aftermath of child sex abuse has on it's jw victims.. it's a fairly short book, 71 pages, it explains barbara's reasons for continuing her activism against child sexual abuse.

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  I'm glad Barbara wrote this book - "Barbara Anderson Uncensored: Eyewitness to Deceit" - it will be an eye opener for the public who only see the polite people at carts or walking door to door. It will help them see who the WT really is through her experiences working at Bethel in the writing department.

  I liked the contribution of Bonnie Zieman and Jon Atack who additionally help expose the type of control WT exerts, and what the aftermath of child sex abuse has on it's JW victims.

  It's a fairly short book, 71 pages, it explains Barbara's reasons for continuing her activism against child sexual abuse. At the end of the book she goes into more detail, relating several experiences, this is one that made my blood boil:

  "Elders made a 16-year old Witness girl apologize to a witness man who she accused of sexually abusing her, although police were charging the man with over forty counts of child abuse."

  Typical slimebag Watchtower! And.... what did I see at the bottom of her book review on Amazon?

  Some WT like drone put a one star review trying to trash it:

  Before anyone buys this book, please know that on her own website if you would check, she blames 40 years worth of her own personal and religious decisions she made as an adult, on people whom she never met and never stepped foot in her home.
  So expect to find plenty of “everyone else is to blame except me” commentary, or how a grown woman was mysteriously “controlled” by people hundreds of miles away.
  Look her up — then will you be an eye-witnesses to deceit.

  
  

  What!? She was baptized at 14! We all know the WT doesn't have to be "in our home" to exert influence, we have all lived "the control" by seven men, hundreds of miles away!
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  Russia Seizes JW Property.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://tass.com/world/1002773 .

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  I am glad the Russians figured out WT's sly moves "donating land to the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York in the US, but still using it as before".... The WT thought they could get away with saying "Oh, it's not owned by Russian JWs, it belongs to a corporation in the U.S."

  I guess there is someone who CAN stand up to the WT.
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  New York's Attorney General, Schneiderman Statement On Assembly Passage Of The Child Victims Act

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/ag-schneiderman-statement-assembly-passage-child-victims-act.

  a.g. schneiderman statement on assembly passage of the child victims act .

  news from attorney general eric t. schneiderman.

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  Personally, I think the tide is turning. When my husband and I went to Sacramento to speak with the law makers, we were met with warm reception, they were willing to help.

  When my husband went to speak before the Senate committee regarding the 'let's stop sexual harrassment' I found the response of BOTH parties very heartening. They were not divided or cutting down one another, but were genuinely interested in getting to the root of the problem, and looking for solutions.

  The "culture" of this United States can change. Each of us can be a part of it. Perhaps caring about our children will be the thing that unites us.
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  Norwegian Article in English: THE ELDER

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  you’ll find this article very long and very interesting.

  it was published as part of a series of articles in a quality newspaper in southern norway.

  as seen from the article, the journalists have been working on this article for several months.

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  Excellent reporting!

  It seems that JW victims are either not aware or considering that reporting to the police is absolutely necessary to prevent harm to other victims.